cman69

1.) lang
2.) charlie
3.) feiner
4.) seabass
5.) root and big all

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Dman3517

i gotta throw dave malinsk and dr bob into the mix with all these guys

Tim Donaghy

I believe a scamdicapper in it's "truest" form has got to-

1)Send out mailers with bogus 70%+ records
2)Offer plays for free and make you call in and give your number so they can call you back 100 times

Many of the previous mentioned jackasses don't come close to meeting this criteria.

How you can even mention "scamdicapper" without Jim Hurley's and or ATS' names brought up is absurd

Double B

Lets not forget Jeff Allen. a dozen years or so ago, a couple of friends & myself took
his football service. I think he may have hit 42%. when we called to bitch, they always
tried to sell us the next big play Jeff was working on. He finally ended up in jail for mail
fraud I believe using other football players, saying the picks were theirs. Dan Pastorini
come to mind. Lo & behold 2-3 yrs. ago he's on pro line working for Fiest.

richie gold

1. Mike Warren
2. Anything associated with ATS
3. Kevin Duffy (if anyone remembers him)
4. Lang/Link/Lane...whatever
5. Anything associated with Feist and that tv show

Honorable mention: Charlie, Root, Feiner

savage1

Kevin Duffy and ATS came very close to making my top 5 and are definitely in the top 10.
Some might disagree, but all things considered, Score gets a "dishonorable" mention also along with Ty Gaston and his Code Zebra Plays, which allegedly have hit at about 95% lifetime.

luckydog

[quote=richie gold;132911]1. Mike Warren
2. Anything associated with ATS

ATS Lock Club football LOY's 20-2-1......fade that and your 2-20-1 on LOY Football. Financial Package on the other hand = Great Fade.

richie gold

[quote=luckydog;132913]lucky, anyone who refers to a game as a 'LOCK' (LOY), automatically enters my top 5...also, is that record documented anywhere?...bol

nema

1) Jeff Allen

nema

1) Jeff Allen
2)Anyone associated with SCORE and their grand slam parlays
3) Mike Warren
4)Ty Gaston
5) Kevin Duffy/Jack Price as I remember that piece on 60 minutes when they busted these fucks and their boiler room scam

husker

you will lose with 99% of the services over time. they all manipulate their records in some way.

Tim Donaghy

Agreed, that's why the only chance you have is to:

-pay 105 juice
-fade almost every handicapper that is posted here

james197826

cman69,

Why do you mention bigall? I have found him to be honest about how he is doing. His systems are not always going to win. GC is a system handicapper and he will tell you that it can put you on solid plays, but the sytem plays will still lose at times.

Keith

Dave Malinsk does NOT belong on this list. He may not be a great capper (he is streaky) but he always posts an accurate record, and you always get what you pay for with his service. Plus his customer service people are very nice to deal with. They will never ever call you, solicit you or harass you in any way.

kluv

Mike Warren

Armani

Big al is also not a scammer

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paperplays

The young guys got it made now, they can know whats going on. Back in the telephone days people really got burned.

DEANO

Dr. Ron Bash You are sure to lose all of your cash!!!! Is it because I eat at Don Shulas restaurant or because I swim with the Dolphins . I own all Dolphins Games. What a worthless peice of crap.

savage1

Yeah-I was thinking of him also.
The reason I didn't list him was that the only time in the pre internet days I saw or heard that worthless turd was on that dumb Saturday morning tv show with Feiner and Kevin Duffy;thus from my point of view he didn't get the same amount of exposure as some of the others.
ps don't forget also that the good doctor as a coach took some division 50 team to the final four.

homedawgsnunders

anyone remember john west back in the mid 1990's??....I remember we paid like $300 a selection and he hit his first 7 plays for us, we thought he was god, then he lost like 10 in a row.....how about tommy chang???....back then their opening sales pitch was always "you may have read about me in USA today"

wwraymond

Why not just fade these guys if they are so bad ? Seems as if you could make a mint off them.

ww

savage1

I don't know if he qualifies in the top 10 scamdicappers or not, but how many of you remember the cocaine using/abusing Professor(he is still around). He was/is a real trip.

dudleydog

Jack Price once said he knew the winner of the Army/NAvy game b/c his Dad had been in the service. Price comp lines were always great to listen to.

ATSNAZI

i like my name and im not a scammer, just a 24 year old recent graduate( yesterday) thats been cappin games hardcore for the past year and half. Just like everybody else i would love to be good enough for people to buy my picks some day,kinda of a fetish. But yes there are scammers out there

savage1

It was particularly funny when he made up the name of Cory Black on comp. phone and pimped the picks for him, when in fact there was/is now Cory Black;Jack was in essence trying to sell his own picks under the fictitious name of someone else because he knew virtually no one would buy his own(Jack's) picks.

JanH

Jack Price would be my # 1 pick for not only being totally unethical but actually guilty of purer illegal activity. A true 3 card monte master.

Dr Ron Bash was also a classic turd phone thumper with all kinds of switch tactics.

And to answer the unasked question - Yep they BOTH hooked me for a few bucks in the last century - but the plays cost me much more than the "service" which I only had for a brief time.

I find SCORE particularly disgusting with there utter BS "newsletter" and incredibly bogus "records/stats" in today's world although they probably attempt to do some type of actual handicapping while the prior era crowd Bash/Price didnt even try.

golden contender

james, this is true- its unethical for me to come up here now and syay whose a scammer and whose not- but let me put it to you like this- alot of these guys are deliberately monitored at sites where ther losing clubs-or records are not seen- only the guys who are winning are seen- so no one really knows how there doing, and they can continue to pump out plays. if did this id probably sell more than i do- not that i do bad- but i keep an accurate tracker here too- alot of these guys dont want there records following them around- no sefvice wins everyday- but if your gonna use one use one that doesnt practice deceptive techniques- how bout those schedules we all get- with goy that are 2 weeks down the road- you gonna buy plays from someone like that-- goy are the 3 magic letters in this biz- its psychlogical people see those letters and go gaga- i laugh when i see certain sevices asked for- then it hits me that sometimes services come up here and ask for there own plays- for 2 reasons- 1- to see whose getting/giving them out. 2- to simply keep there name out there- for all those who complain about aramani- the man does an excellent job of keeping the undesirables out of here- and those who seem to complain are posters who are services them self- i still get mail from one guy who accuses me of getting him banned- meanwhile he had 8 usernames and 48 ip addys- but its my fault he got banned-lmao- this is a solid thread one that will have some of these guys ghosting to stick up for them selves- you truly would be surpised to hear that there are guys on these forums who have 6=7 sites/services that post along side each othere competing with themselves for biz-BELIEVE IT- bol gc-

Dman3517

While he may be honest about his picks now, he wasn't quite so honest before when I used to use him a lot.

Dman3517

Look in the talk thread for some examples of what I'm talking about, slim has provided some for you.

Keith

well then that was years ago. Both last year and recently he was always legit. Stand by my assertion that he in no way belongs on a list with Lang, Price, Feiner, etc... You are the first person I have seen to accuse him of being a scamdicapper. Not saying it isn't so, just that I have never seen anything like that from him, nor have I seen anyone else accuse him of it.

Keith

Lame excuses and posting his plays at 12:00 may make him a lousy handicapper, but that does not make him a scam artist/scamdicapper like some of the others out there.

Art Vandelay

Jack Price is one of the all-timers. Have you ever heard one of his promos - incredible! He's literally begging for you to call him and he talks of fixes, inside info, etc. Anybody who has ever paid this guy a dime for his so-called picks is a bigger idiot than him!

mrktwizrd

What about Cory Black with his cowboy hat in the USA Today ads?

savage1

There is no Cory Black, at least one who actually picks the games;Jack Price simply uses him and has used the name in the past to peddle his own miserable picks(Jacks') under someone else's name.

bdragon

1.Jack Price is going to jump off the Golden Gate bridge if he doesn't win his GOY. How many times did he say that one. Never did see that fat turd floating in the bay.
2.Ron Bash, listen to me and you'll part with your cash. What an asshole. Former coach what a fat joke.
3.Tom Kennedy, when he was running an outfit called the exective players club. Back in the late 80's I used the service and got to know the "VP", can't remember his name, but a truely nice guy. Then one day I got this asshole on the phone and said you want my best plays give me best plays money. I should thank this asshole.
4. Stu Feiner, the man whose broken more homes and families then all the hookers in Vegas.
5.Ripple. not even going to go there

Armani

Got to love the Painter on there....

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fevernomics

No offense, but thats the dumbest thing I've ever read.. I have been with Dr. Bob for 17 years now and have 2 small losing years on record, 15 years of winners, most of them huge years.. Dr. Bob has paid for my house, my QX56 and the 5 plasma tvs.. in my estimation he is the only real capper out there

husker

they must be the last two years. because those are the only ones i have tracked dr bob, and he has lost both. i can't wait to read your third post. LOL

Muddy

So who is good? A good capper you can trust?

I think all cappers like Seabas wo release like 15 20 stars and then release a 400 star are garbage and there are many of them