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husker curios as to how this guy fares he did good back in the 90;s when he was a guest on the stardust line but he was not a tout then.

His plays have been posted of late but you can also go to his site and view yesterdays results each day but he doesn;t show a running record nor is he minitored as far as i know.

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Old 12-11-2006, 10:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:10 AM   #3 (permalink)
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If you are going to track the record properly, you need to include the ratings.
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Old 12-12-2006, 08:35 AM   #4 (permalink)
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i disagree, most services only rate plays differently so they can use it in their marketing. if their lower rated games aren't that good why even release them as plays? they use a lot of small plays and if they do good and the big plays are bad, they combine the records and say they win. if the top plays are the ones winning they say they are their best plays and the small plays are only for people that want a lot of "action" in their marketing.
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i disagree, most services only rate plays differently so they can use it in their marketing. if their lower rated games aren't that good why even release them as plays? they use a lot of small plays and if they do good and the big plays are bad, they combine the records and say they win. if the top plays are the ones winning they say they are their best plays and the small plays are only for people that want a lot of "action" in their marketing.
That's just fine if you disagree. However, why not capture all the information. If one chooses, he can disregard the ratings. I think it makes a big difference.
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Old 12-12-2006, 06:37 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Repost of ********'s Monday:
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Old 12-13-2006, 06:44 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I saw one play for ******** on Tues.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes, tlyons, I only saw one play. I am only using whatever plays I see posted at this forum.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:46 AM   #9 (permalink)
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He was 0-2 yesterday

YESTERDAY'S PICKS

League Pick Final Score W/L Units
NCAAB Pinnacle @ 12.5 -106 Saint Mary's (58) at Nevada (76) L -4.4
Explanation
4* ST. MARY’S over NEVADA
It might not sound sexy to call a team, a “Tough Out”, but in reality that is some of the highest praise that we can give on the college hardwoods. It also represents something that we will be looking for often over the next few months, those teams that bring the combination of coaching, defensive tenacity and depth that makes them hard to take out of a game. And that is exactly the case with Randy Bennett and his Gaels.

Since playing with mostly his own recruits the last three seasons Bennett has gone 5-2 ATS taking double figures, and they have been a little better than even those numbers show – the two non-covers came by only a basket each. And after controlling Nevada to the tune of 89-80 at home LY there is also no intimidation vs. this opponent. So why is the line so high? Let’s get to it -

The Gaels enter this game at 6-4, which does not raise any eyebrows. But take a closer look. They led San Diego State in the final minute of a one-point defeat on a neutral court. They led by seven at Seton Hall with 5:00 remaining before losing in overtime. They played Southern Cal to the final minute of a 69-63 road defeat despite shooting an abysmal 1-18 from 3-point range. They are just a couple of bounces away from being 8-2 or perhaps even 9-1, but close late failures had to be expected in the transition from the Daniel Kickert era – while the roster is filled with talent, there is not a go-to player at the end of close games. That does not matter for us here; all we want are the guys that can keep it close. And there are loads of them; Bennett has so much depth that no player averages more than 28 minutes per game, and seven go at least 20. They have excellent wing spans on the perimeter, and in 7-1 senior Blake Sholberg and emerging 6-11 redshirt freshman Omar Sanham there are also plenty of fouls to give against Nick Fazekas inside.

Now let’s fit in that defensive rotation against a Wolfpack squad that failed miserably to handle the pressure defense that U.N.L.V. threw at them in a decisive win on this court Saturday night (the Rebels led by as many as 21 points in the second half). St. Mary’s has harassed opposing offenses to the tune of only 40.3 percent shooting being allowing, and they have nearly forced twice as many turnovers (168) at the opposition has assists (85). Having struggled vs. similar tactics on Saturday we anticipate many of the same issues here, which leaves the home team hard pressed to merely get the win here, much less a margin.



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NCAAB Pinnacle @ 133 -105 Golden Knights (63) at Minnesota (74) L -4.4
Explanation
4* CENTRAL FLORIDA/MINNESOTA Under
A Kirk Speraw/Jim Molinari matchup, with the lineups being sent to the court tonight, should never produce a total this high. But the oddsmakers were forced into a bad line, so we will take advantage.

It has not taken long for Molinari to put his stamp on the struggling Gophers – there is going to be an intense defensive effort every time out, with solid man-to-man principles, and even through what appears to be a disastrous start to the season they are allowing the opposition to shoot only 39.8 percent from the floor. That will only get better as he takes more control, and by dismissing assistant Bill Walker on Friday, one of the last remnants of the Dan Monson years, he is establishing himself as the guy in charge. Now he is also making a tactical move tonight that further helps our purposes.

Despite playing solid defense, the Gophers have been buried on the boards this season. Molinari will make a move that aids both areas tonight – instead of a three-guard lineup he will move power forward Dan Coleman to the #3 spot, and inserting 6-9 freshmen Bryce Webster into the starting lineup. This makes the defense formidable around the basket (few teams in Division I start a front-court in which every player is 6-9 or taller), while also eliminating the second chance points that have haunted them so far. And for us it also slows the game way down, and makes them less flexible on offense.

As for UCF, the oddsmakers are in a quandary. There is no secret to Speraw’s style of play for those that follow closely, and on the road LY his Golden Knights played to a 126.3 over 10 lined games, including such places as Florida, Kentucky and Memphis. So why is this so high? Largely because they have played the weakest schedule of any team in Division I so far, not leaving their home court and not facing a single team from outside the state of Florida. As such we put no stock whatsoever into their 85 points per game, and while the schedule has indeed contributed to the 34.3 percent shooting that they are allowing, this will once again be a tenacious defense – Speraw has a deep rotation that shows 10 players going at least 10 minutes per game, and no one playing more than 26, which means getting after the opposition for the full 40 minutes.

This will be ugly to watch, especially with the Knights aiming at foreign rims for the first time, with little fluid offense and many trips in which good shots can not be found. But cashing a ticket is always pretty.
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Old 12-13-2006, 07:50 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Badco,
Did I miss those on this site? I only saw the one play, I assumed it was his only one.
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Old 12-13-2006, 08:55 AM   #11 (permalink)
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No I got them from his site

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Old 12-13-2006, 09:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i disagree, most services only rate plays differently so they can use it in their marketing. if their lower rated games aren't that good why even release them as plays? they use a lot of small plays and if they do good and the big plays are bad, they combine the records and say they win. if the top plays are the ones winning they say they are their best plays and the small plays are only for people that want a lot of "action" in their marketing.
I agree 100% that ratings are a crock! Too many service bump up their ratings when they are losing and chase the units trying to get even. The won loss record is a measure of their worth. Keeping track of some of these service that have multiple clubs 5 or more different ratings and no consistency is a useless nightmare and far too much work.

Furthermore I would exclude comp Picks and opinions.

People who want those units are welcome to maintain their own records. I don't really have a problem with anybody who wants to do that extra work and post units. I for one, would ignore the rating and zero in on the Won Loss percentage.
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Old 12-13-2006, 02:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I agree 100% that ratings are a crock! Too many service bump up their ratings when they are losing and chase the units trying to get even. The won loss record is a measure of their worth. Keeping track of some of these service that have multiple clubs 5 or more different ratings and no consistency is a useless nightmare and far too much work.

Furthermore I would exclude comp Picks and opinions.

People who want those units are welcome to maintain their own records. I don't really have a problem with anybody who wants to do that extra work and post units. I for one, would ignore the rating and zero in on the Won Loss percentage.
That's fine. You are entitled to your opinion. However, if you are going through the trouble of maintaining this thread, why not capture all available information for those that chose to use it. It shouldn't be that much extra work. You sound like anyone who doesn't think like you must be stupid. I've got news for you, that is not the case.

If you don't provide information that I find useful, I won't use it.
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Old 12-14-2006, 08:42 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2006, 04:38 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Is anyone keeping a running record?

Like whats his record since track started and so forth.
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Old 12-14-2006, 10:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Old 12-16-2006, 11:06 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I know you can call Covers and they will provide a record based on what you ask. Not sure what you are looking for? SOmeone hitting 70%. I have followed his plays for almost a year and he was terific in pretty much all the sports. College FB is one of his strong areas. He also releases games sometimes within a half hour of game because it is a play of his based on new number. I consider him one of the best and truly is just providing plays that he is betting and making additional money on if someone else chooses to follow. THe lines have been moving right after he releases and you never know when that is. No set time.
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Old 12-16-2006, 12:29 PM   #18 (permalink)
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champs, if you have bin getting the plays and they are so good. why haven't you posted them with the good record that you have bin tracking so everyone could benefit?
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Old 12-16-2006, 03:31 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Old 12-17-2006, 06:47 AM   #20 (permalink)
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5-1 yesterday

18-8 since track began
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Old 12-17-2006, 10:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Badco,
I am going to let you keep track of his record. Multiple people cannot do that, it has to be only one person.

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Old 12-18-2006, 11:05 AM   #22 (permalink)
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2-3 yesterday

20-11 since track began
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Old 12-18-2006, 11:55 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Whats his picks for today. If any.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:35 AM   #24 (permalink)
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