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BadCo · 01-02-2007, 07:40 PM

POLITICAL NOTEBOOK: Libertarians eye oddsmaker for top of ticket

Root schedules meeting with party officials

By MOLLY BALL
REVIEW-JOURNAL

Wayne Allyn Root

A move's afoot to draft the sports handicapper to run for president

He's rich, telegenic and knows the odds. Why not run for president?

A movement is afoot among libertarians, gamblers and right-wing blogs to draft Las Vegas sports handicapper Wayne Allyn Root to run for president in 2008.

"This came out of the blue," Root said of the buzz. "I'm being recruited, but I have no idea whether I'll do it. Top Libertarians have been contacting me, but I need to get an idea of how much money, time and effort it would take."

Earlier this month, Root, the relentlessly self-promoting author of "Millionaire Republican," was the subject of posts on the blogs Red State and Mainstream Libertarian. "He'll win the sports vote," the Red State headline noted. Reaction in the comments section was lukewarm.

Root said he has a meeting scheduled for later this month with Libertarian Party officials. "I'd have to be convinced I had a realistic chance, not to win the presidency, but to build a base; that it wouldn't hurt my standing with the Republican Party; and that I could continue to run my business," he said.

Root described his views as "fiscally conservative, socially progressive and strong on defense." He said he believes most Americans favor his ideas, but neither major party currently embodies them.

"Both parties are a huge disappointment to the average American," Root said. "It's time for a third party. I can feel it. I'm a gut instinct guy. I'm a handicapper."

The world's largest legal oddsmaker, England-based Ladbrokes, has put odds at 2-to-1 that Root will get the Libertarian nomination, and 1-to-2 that he will get the most votes of any Libertarian presidential candidate.

Whether or not he runs, Root said, "My ultimate goal has never changed: to be the Republican senator for the state of Nevada." He said he also may run for Las Vegas mayor.

HELLER HAS LEFT THE BUILDING

Congressman-elect Dean Heller appears to have forgotten that, until today, he was also Nevada's secretary of state.

On Dec. 12, a meeting of the state Board of Examiners, of which Heller is one-third, had to be canceled for lack of a quorum. The board, which approves state contracts, consists of the governor, the attorney general and the secretary of state.

Kenny Guinn, who has made sure everyone knows he was still governor until this morning, was there, but Heller and Attorney General George Chanos were absent.

The meeting was rescheduled for Thursday, at which time Chanos appeared by teleconference and he and Guinn voted on the board's business, Debbie Christensen of the state's Department of Administration, Budget and Planning said. Heller was again a no-show.

Three items on which Chanos and Guinn didn't agree ended in a tie and had to be deferred to the next board.

Attempts to reach Heller by cell phone, through a staffer and at his Carson City office have been unsuccessful for the past week and a half.

FORD'S NO LINCOLN, OR REAGAN

When President Reagan died in 2004, the lights went dim on the Strip for a minute in a gesture of mourning. It wasn't clear late last week whether President Ford, who died Dec. 26, would get the same treatment on Tuesday, which was declared a national day of mourning on Thursday. But it didn't look likely.

Most representatives of the gaming community, in addition to practically everyone else besides newspaper reporters, were not on duty Friday, and no one could quite recall how the Reagan dimming came about.

Erika Pope, spokeswoman for the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, said she believed it had been a "grass-roots campaign" on the part of Strip properties, who came together and agreed among themselves.

Bill Bible, president of the Nevada Resort Association, said his group didn't coordinate the Reagan tribute and he, too, thought it was the properties themselves.

Rob Stillwell, spokesman for Boyd Gaming, said he was under the impression it had been the LVCVA's project.

Pope, Bible and Stillwell agreed that because of the timing, it was unlikely the casinos would get together in time to put something together for Ford, even if they were inclined to.

Everyone was too polite to point out that Ford, who was never elected vice president or president, just wasn't quite as revered as Reagan. But Pope speculated there might have been a reason Reagan would get respect from the Strip that wouldn't be accorded to just any former president.

"Reagan performed in Las Vegas," she noted. "He had an entertainer aspect to his career. I think that was a big impetus behind the Las Vegas tribute."

Indeed, in a 1954 photo taken at the Last Frontier, Reagan can be seen in a German-language Pabst Blue Ribbon apron, backed by a troupe of what appear to be dancing Cossack bellboys.

NO-FRILLS INAUGURAL

Jim Gibbons is to be sworn in as governor today, according to his staff. But while other new governors were planning state tours, kids' barbecues and public jogs, Gibbons' inaugural, scheduled for Tuesday, looked to be a pretty plain affair.

"Chief Justice A. William Maupin will publicly administer the oath of office to the other constitutional officers first, then to Governor Jim Gibbons, and the new governor will make a speech," a news release from the Gibbons team Friday stated. "Several hundred people will be in attendance."

According to a rough program, the proceedings will start with the Fallon High School Jazz Band, the Reno-Sparks Community Chorus and the 1st Nevada Territorial Volunteer Cavalry. The ceremony will include the singing of the national anthem and the state song, "Home Means Nevada"; a military salute; and a benediction by the chairman of the Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe.

Maupin, a former Clark County District Court judge, appeared to be the only Southern Nevadan in the news release. The emcee is a television reporter who lives in Genoa; the pastor is from Reno; the singer lives in Carson City.

According to an article on Stateline.org, Colorado Gov.-elect Bill Ritter plans to tour the state by plane and train following his inauguration; Florida Gov.-elect Charlie Crist already has held a barbecue for foster kids to celebrate his; and New York Gov.-elect Eliot Spitzer planned to warm up for his with a 6 a.m. jog.

reviewjournal.com -- News - POLITICAL NOTEBOOK: Libertarians eye oddsmaker for top of ticket

bdragon · 01-02-2007, 10:37 PM

YO BAD DUDE,

You sure that article is not from MAD magazine? It does sound MAD

husker · 01-02-2007, 11:02 PM

root is a lying scum, he would fit right in with all the other weasels running around the hill.

this makes me as sick as when people were saying martin sheen (sp?) should run for president.

is it just me or do others hear the name obama and think osama???

savage1 · 01-03-2007, 08:33 AM

Yeah He would be a "great" candidate all right.
Besides defrauding/bilking shareholders of his company stock Winning Edge (symbol wned, which was formerly Gwin,symbol gwni) out of millions of dollars (stock price is at around .006), he is a miserable, deceptive, arrogant and self-serving jerk, who isn't worthy of being elected to ANY elected office let along the Presidency.
He is sneered at by his fellow colleagues in Vegas and is generally disliked because of his "I am better than you" attitude.

dobs32 · 01-03-2007, 09:36 AM

They think he would get the sports vote?Now thats funny.... He broke more guys than the great depression. All the guys that havent committed suicide yet after he broke em will probably not vote for him. That being said.. he probably couldnt do worse than what we have now. GW Bush when all said and done will go down in history as the worst President ever. I did make that prediction when he and his brother stole the election years ago. Now if i could only pick winners in the sports world as accurately as a picked in the political world... i may have something

savage1 · 01-03-2007, 09:58 AM

Dobs-That Bush is the worst president ever is a much bigger lock than anything that Root has ever offered.

investolator · 01-03-2007, 01:29 PM

This is Wayne Allen Root coming to you live from the Oval Office. As your new President I would like to give away my National Debt Bail Out Game of the Year for absolutly nothing. Call the White House switch board and its yours completely free. When this one wins I will put a freeze on everyones federal taxes for one year. God bless gambling and the United States of America.

savage1 · 01-03-2007, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by investolator

This is Wayne Allen Root coming to you live from the Oval Office. As your new President I would like to give away my National Debt Bail Out Game of the Year for absolutly nothing. Call the White House switch board and its yours completely free. When this one wins I will put a freeze on everyones federal taxes for one year. God bless gambling and the United States of America.

Good one!

I guess Root is bored with have just conned relatively few folks over the years in comparison to the total population of the US.
It is now time to step up bigtime and try to outdo his miserable hero, George Bush, into misleading, deceiving, lying and in general trying to pull the wools over the eyes of the much larger American public.
I wouldn't trust this guy as a crossing guard for school kids let alone for ANY elected office and heaven forbid the Presidency.

dobs32 · 01-03-2007, 03:24 PM

odds are pretty long he can win the nomination. About the same odds that he makes any money for his clients. Both about 5 billion to 1. I was thinking of phil steele running for ****.. he would lose all the states and spin it by saying he won 67% of the vote in Columbus, Ohio and therfore it was a successful election.

husker · 01-03-2007, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dobs32

GW Bush when all said and done will go down in history as the worst President ever. I did make that prediction when he and his brother stole the election years ago.

jimmy carter has that title by a landslide!!

six years and still bitter.

husker · 01-03-2007, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by dobs32

I was thinking of phil steele running for ****.. he would lose all the states and spin it by saying he won 67% of the vote in Columbus, Ohio and therfore it was a successful election.

something like gore winning the popular vote but losing the election? that's still being spun six years later!

dobs32 · 01-03-2007, 06:06 PM

If my brother ran for **** and I was governor of deciding state... my bro woulda won as well. No bitterness here.. approval rating and amount of American deaths on his watch speak for themselves.. guy is a disgrace

dobs32 · 01-03-2007, 06:55 PM

Just curious husker.. why that Gore won the popular is called a "spin" by you? Isn't that exactly what happened? These conservatives kill me.. I laugh how to this day as soon as something goes wrong they start defending themselves by saying"Well, Bill Clinton did......... just amazing stuff. I wish one time the Republican controlled Congress and White House would take some responsibiltity for what they have done to this country

husker · 01-03-2007, 11:13 PM

dobs, did Kennedy steal the election from Nixon? basically the same thing happened then and Nixon did the right thing and didn't ask for a recount. what Kennedy's dad did back then to get his son elected would have made all the stuff that goes on now look like child's play.

the spin is gore lost! the votes were recounted with everyone watching every little thing. but you say Bush "stole" the election.

who said anything about slick willy?

i can't stand 99% of the politicians, they are all crooks. who ever has the power is the bigger crook. it doesn't matter witch party.

husker · 01-03-2007, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dobs32

No bitterness here.. approval rating and amount of American deaths on his watch speak for themselves.. guy is a disgrace

i don't understand why people are so fixated on # of deaths in Iraq (actually i do, politics). MANY more people are killed by drunk drivers every year, why don't you hear about that 24/7. how many people are murdered in the USA in one year? soldiers killed is minuscule compared to that #, yet no mention of this 24/7.

dobs32 · 01-04-2007, 09:52 AM

No comparison to drunk driving idiots and a President sending troops to die for no other reason right now than stubborness.

dobs32 · 01-04-2007, 09:57 AM

The kennedy/nixon election was before my time so im not real familiar with all that happened. I agree that most of em are scum politicians .. it's just a shame the number 1 scum reached the top.

savage1 · 01-04-2007, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dobs32

No comparison to drunk driving idiots and a President sending troops to die for no other reason right now than stubborness.

And for financial interests for the big corporate oil and other big business interests to which this Administration is closely allied.

dobs32 · 01-04-2007, 10:08 AM

Geez.. how could i forget GW's big oil buddies. I'm still waiting for a conservative to read this and bring up the BJ Clinton got while in office. For some reason they think that is worse than selling arms to iran(reagan) or sending troops to their death in a senseless war.

husker · 01-04-2007, 04:11 PM

could someone explain how the iraq war helped US oil companies? traders always seem to have some reason to say the supply of oil will will go down (hurricanes, strikes, countries dont like us, etc.) and the price will go up. i don't remember a shortage since the early 70's and that was because of govt regulating the price. there was plenty of oil sitting in tankers waiting to be unloaded but the govt didn't allow the oil co's to get market price so they let it sit there and people were waiting in gas lines.

husker · 01-04-2007, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dobs32

I'm still waiting for a conservative to read this and bring up the BJ Clinton got while in office. For some reason they think that is worse than selling arms to iran(reagan) or sending troops to their death in a senseless war.

if Clinton would have admitted to the affair instead of lying about it most people wouldn't have cared. he made it much worse by trying to cover it up, just like Nixon did. pore judgement to do it with someone that works for you, some jobs you would be fired for that.

any country could be a friend today and a enemy tomorrow. political changes happen all the time. who thought 20 years ago we would be friends with Russia and Libia?

savage1 · 01-04-2007, 08:01 PM

To play Devils' Advocate, even if one accepts the sad premise that the US had the right to go into Iraq, the fact remains that thisAdministration failed miserably in its OWN goals, and many thousands of Americans and Iraquis have died with no end in sight. If that in itself is not the definition of a totally incompetent administration/President, then I don't know what is.

01-02-2007, 07:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
BadCo Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 371	W.A.R. for President POLITICAL NOTEBOOK: Libertarians eye oddsmaker for top of ticket Root schedules meeting with party officials By MOLLY BALL REVIEW-JOURNAL Wayne Allyn Root A move's afoot to draft the sports handicapper to run for president He's rich, telegenic and knows the odds. Why not run for president? A movement is afoot among libertarians, gamblers and right-wing blogs to draft Las Vegas sports handicapper Wayne Allyn Root to run for president in 2008. "This came out of the blue," Root said of the buzz. "I'm being recruited, but I have no idea whether I'll do it. Top Libertarians have been contacting me, but I need to get an idea of how much money, time and effort it would take." Earlier this month, Root, the relentlessly self-promoting author of "Millionaire Republican," was the subject of posts on the blogs Red State and Mainstream Libertarian. "He'll win the sports vote," the Red State headline noted. Reaction in the comments section was lukewarm. Root said he has a meeting scheduled for later this month with Libertarian Party officials. "I'd have to be convinced I had a realistic chance, not to win the presidency, but to build a base; that it wouldn't hurt my standing with the Republican Party; and that I could continue to run my business," he said. Root described his views as "fiscally conservative, socially progressive and strong on defense." He said he believes most Americans favor his ideas, but neither major party currently embodies them. "Both parties are a huge disappointment to the average American," Root said. "It's time for a third party. I can feel it. I'm a gut instinct guy. I'm a handicapper." The world's largest legal oddsmaker, England-based Ladbrokes, has put odds at 2-to-1 that Root will get the Libertarian nomination, and 1-to-2 that he will get the most votes of any Libertarian presidential candidate. Whether or not he runs, Root said, "My ultimate goal has never changed: to be the Republican senator for the state of Nevada." He said he also may run for Las Vegas mayor. HELLER HAS LEFT THE BUILDING Congressman-elect Dean Heller appears to have forgotten that, until today, he was also Nevada's secretary of state. On Dec. 12, a meeting of the state Board of Examiners, of which Heller is one-third, had to be canceled for lack of a quorum. The board, which approves state contracts, consists of the governor, the attorney general and the secretary of state. Kenny Guinn, who has made sure everyone knows he was still governor until this morning, was there, but Heller and Attorney General George Chanos were absent. The meeting was rescheduled for Thursday, at which time Chanos appeared by teleconference and he and Guinn voted on the board's business, Debbie Christensen of the state's Department of Administration, Budget and Planning said. Heller was again a no-show. Three items on which Chanos and Guinn didn't agree ended in a tie and had to be deferred to the next board. Attempts to reach Heller by cell phone, through a staffer and at his Carson City office have been unsuccessful for the past week and a half. FORD'S NO LINCOLN, OR REAGAN When President Reagan died in 2004, the lights went dim on the Strip for a minute in a gesture of mourning. It wasn't clear late last week whether President Ford, who died Dec. 26, would get the same treatment on Tuesday, which was declared a national day of mourning on Thursday. But it didn't look likely. Most representatives of the gaming community, in addition to practically everyone else besides newspaper reporters, were not on duty Friday, and no one could quite recall how the Reagan dimming came about. Erika Pope, spokeswoman for the Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority, said she believed it had been a "grass-roots campaign" on the part of Strip properties, who came together and agreed among themselves. Bill Bible, president of the Nevada Resort Association, said his group didn't coordinate the Reagan tribute and he, too, thought it was the properties themselves. Rob Stillwell, spokesman for Boyd Gaming, said he was under the impression it had been the LVCVA's project. Pope, Bible and Stillwell agreed that because of the timing, it was unlikely the casinos would get together in time to put something together for Ford, even if they were inclined to. Everyone was too polite to point out that Ford, who was never elected vice president or president, just wasn't quite as revered as Reagan. But Pope speculated there might have been a reason Reagan would get respect from the Strip that wouldn't be accorded to just any former president. "Reagan performed in Las Vegas," she noted. "He had an entertainer aspect to his career. I think that was a big impetus behind the Las Vegas tribute." Indeed, in a 1954 photo taken at the Last Frontier, Reagan can be seen in a German-language Pabst Blue Ribbon apron, backed by a troupe of what appear to be dancing Cossack bellboys. NO-FRILLS INAUGURAL Jim Gibbons is to be sworn in as governor today, according to his staff. But while other new governors were planning state tours, kids' barbecues and public jogs, Gibbons' inaugural, scheduled for Tuesday, looked to be a pretty plain affair. "Chief Justice A. William Maupin will publicly administer the oath of office to the other constitutional officers first, then to Governor Jim Gibbons, and the new governor will make a speech," a news release from the Gibbons team Friday stated. "Several hundred people will be in attendance." According to a rough program, the proceedings will start with the Fallon High School Jazz Band, the Reno-Sparks Community Chorus and the 1st Nevada Territorial Volunteer Cavalry. The ceremony will include the singing of the national anthem and the state song, "Home Means Nevada"; a military salute; and a benediction by the chairman of the Fallon Paiute-Shoshone Tribe. Maupin, a former Clark County District Court judge, appeared to be the only Southern Nevadan in the news release. The emcee is a television reporter who lives in Genoa; the pastor is from Reno; the singer lives in Carson City. According to an article on Stateline.org, Colorado Gov.-elect Bill Ritter plans to tour the state by plane and train following his inauguration; Florida Gov.-elect Charlie Crist already has held a barbecue for foster kids to celebrate his; and New York Gov.-elect Eliot Spitzer planned to warm up for his with a 6 a.m. jog. reviewjournal.com -- News - POLITICAL NOTEBOOK: Libertarians eye oddsmaker for top of ticket

01-02-2007, 10:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
bdragon Wise Guy Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 280	YO BAD DUDE, You sure that article is not from MAD magazine? It does sound MAD

01-02-2007, 11:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
husker Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,298	root is a lying scum, he would fit right in with all the other weasels running around the hill. this makes me as sick as when people were saying martin sheen (sp?) should run for president. is it just me or do others hear the name obama and think osama???

01-03-2007, 08:33 AM	#4 (permalink)
savage1 Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,351	Yeah He would be a "great" candidate all right. Besides defrauding/bilking shareholders of his company stock Winning Edge (symbol wned, which was formerly Gwin,symbol gwni) out of millions of dollars (stock price is at around .006), he is a miserable, deceptive, arrogant and self-serving jerk, who isn't worthy of being elected to ANY elected office let along the Presidency. He is sneered at by his fellow colleagues in Vegas and is generally disliked because of his "I am better than you" attitude.

01-03-2007, 09:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
dobs32 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 111	They think he would get the sports vote?Now thats funny.... He broke more guys than the great depression. All the guys that havent committed suicide yet after he broke em will probably not vote for him. That being said.. he probably couldnt do worse than what we have now. GW Bush when all said and done will go down in history as the worst President ever. I did make that prediction when he and his brother stole the election years ago. Now if i could only pick winners in the sports world as accurately as a picked in the political world... i may have something

01-03-2007, 09:58 AM	#6 (permalink)
savage1 Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,351	Dobs-That Bush is the worst president ever is a much bigger lock than anything that Root has ever offered.

01-03-2007, 01:29 PM	#7 (permalink)
investolator Rookie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 36	This is Wayne Allen Root coming to you live from the Oval Office. As your new President I would like to give away my National Debt Bail Out Game of the Year for absolutly nothing. Call the White House switch board and its yours completely free. When this one wins I will put a freeze on everyones federal taxes for one year. God bless gambling and the United States of America.

01-03-2007, 03:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
dobs32 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 111	odds are pretty long he can win the nomination. About the same odds that he makes any money for his clients. Both about 5 billion to 1. I was thinking of phil steele running for ****.. he would lose all the states and spin it by saying he won 67% of the vote in Columbus, Ohio and therfore it was a successful election.

01-03-2007, 06:06 PM	#12 (permalink)
dobs32 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 111	If my brother ran for **** and I was governor of deciding state... my bro woulda won as well. No bitterness here.. approval rating and amount of American deaths on his watch speak for themselves.. guy is a disgrace

01-03-2007, 06:55 PM	#13 (permalink)
dobs32 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 111	Just curious husker.. why that Gore won the popular is called a "spin" by you? Isn't that exactly what happened? These conservatives kill me.. I laugh how to this day as soon as something goes wrong they start defending themselves by saying"Well, Bill Clinton did......... just amazing stuff. I wish one time the Republican controlled Congress and White House would take some responsibiltity for what they have done to this country

01-03-2007, 11:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
husker Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,298	dobs, did Kennedy steal the election from Nixon? basically the same thing happened then and Nixon did the right thing and didn't ask for a recount. what Kennedy's dad did back then to get his son elected would have made all the stuff that goes on now look like child's play. the spin is gore lost! the votes were recounted with everyone watching every little thing. but you say Bush "stole" the election. who said anything about slick willy? i can't stand 99% of the politicians, they are all crooks. who ever has the power is the bigger crook. it doesn't matter witch party.

01-04-2007, 09:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
dobs32 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 111	No comparison to drunk driving idiots and a President sending troops to die for no other reason right now than stubborness.

01-04-2007, 09:57 AM	#17 (permalink)
dobs32 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 111	The kennedy/nixon election was before my time so im not real familiar with all that happened. I agree that most of em are scum politicians .. it's just a shame the number 1 scum reached the top.

01-04-2007, 10:08 AM	#19 (permalink)
dobs32 Banned Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 111	Geez.. how could i forget GW's big oil buddies. I'm still waiting for a conservative to read this and bring up the BJ Clinton got while in office. For some reason they think that is worse than selling arms to iran(reagan) or sending troops to their death in a senseless war.

01-04-2007, 04:11 PM	#20 (permalink)
husker Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,298	could someone explain how the iraq war helped US oil companies? traders always seem to have some reason to say the supply of oil will will go down (hurricanes, strikes, countries dont like us, etc.) and the price will go up. i don't remember a shortage since the early 70's and that was because of govt regulating the price. there was plenty of oil sitting in tankers waiting to be unloaded but the govt didn't allow the oil co's to get market price so they let it sit there and people were waiting in gas lines.

01-04-2007, 08:01 PM	#22 (permalink)
savage1 Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 6,351	To play Devils' Advocate, even if one accepts the sad premise that the US had the right to go into Iraq, the fact remains that thisAdministration failed miserably in its OWN goals, and many thousands of Americans and Iraquis have died with no end in sight. If that in itself is not the definition of a totally incompetent administration/President, then I don't know what is.

01-04-2007, 10:35 PM	#23 (permalink)
husker Degenerate Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5,298